Audio Reviews - Prometheus Discussion

Awhile back we promised that we'd do an in depth discussion on Prometheus, especially since I wasn't in on the review. We did follow through on that promise - we just never posted the audio. So for those who doubted it ever happen here's our Spoiler filled discussion on Prometheus.

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210 Comments for Prometheus Spoiler Discussion

November 23, 2012 at 3:09 AM, said ...

I hated this movie, here are some of the reasons why: ' Are your survival skills as finely honed as the scientists aboard Prometheus? Let's find out... You, a scientist, have landed on a distant planet with a team of fellow scientists in search of alien life. What would you do in the following scenarios? 1. Upon first arrival and entrance into what appears to be a manufactured cave structure, you deploy very high tech scanning and mapping probes. Do you: A) Also send out your android crew member to evaluate any possible danger and then wait for the probes to finish scanning and mapping before you begin exploring? B) Brazenly charge forward into the unknown and maybe consult your equipment's discoveries later, shrugging off any blips of alien life as an equipment malfunction? 2. While traveling through the cave structure on this alien planet you discover the presence of oxygen in the air. Do you: A) Keep your space helmet secured tightly because there may be any number of unknown elements, pathogens, bacteria, contagions, and other toxic substances in the atmosphere that are undetectable by your equipment? B) Quickly remove your helmet AFTER stating what an idiotic idea it is because a fellow teenage scientist, who has properly tested the air by taking a few shallow breaths, peer-pressures you into it? 3. Your android crew member appears to have quickly learned the language of the inscriptions found within the cave. Do you: A) Ask him to translate everything and share his wealth of knowledge from that point forward? B) Treat him like a red-headed step child and ignore him for the rest of the mission? 4. As scientists on a mission in search of alien life, you stumble upon a deceased alien life form in the cave structure. Do you: A) Restrain your excitement at the discovery and prepare to study, take samples, and test further? B) Piss your pants in fear and then while attempting to return to the ship you run in random directions until you are lost within the caves, refusing to consult the mapping tools you brought with you even though you happen to be THE expert in their usage? 5. After becoming lost within the caves you learn of a storm outside that will prevent you from returning to the ship until morning. Do you: A) Break out your mapping tools to help determine your location and plot your exit strategy; or still refusing that logic, simply ask the crew on the ship to help guide you through the caves with their 3D map which includes your location? B) Decide that exploring deeper into the caves to frighten yourself further with more deceased alien discoveries is probably the most logical thing you can be doing with your spare time? 6. After wandering through the entire haunted-house cave structure you decide to enter the initial room that frightened you off in the first place; unfortunately you then come face to face with a living alien that resembles a large snake which begins posturing and hissing at you like a king cobra. Do you: A) Shoot it in the face and run for your miserable life? B) Decide that you are only afraid of dead aliens and not live ones, and then try to pet the aggressive alien snake with your hand? 7. Upon the discovery of a 2000 year old decapitated alien head which has been wondrously preserved, you bag the head in your trusty ziplock and return to the ship with your trophy for testing. Do you: A) Take a sample and have a look at its DNA first? B) Recalling your fond memories of Frankenstein, you inject stem cells into its locus coeruleus to re-animate it and increase the amps until the alien head explodes; and then you run your tests? 8. You manage to collect a small sample of a strange black goop in the caves, which appears to be alive. Do you: A) Put a drop onto a slide and take a look under a microscope? B) Decide that the scientific method of small children will yield the best and quickest results and so you secretly put a drop into a drink which you then give to a scientist to see what happens? 9. You have become incredibly sick with some unknown illness and witness an alien larva worm crawl out of your eye. Do you: A) Quarantine yourself and ask the other crew members to help treat your condition immediately? B) Pretend that nothing is amiss and you feel fine, then romp about as usual with the rest of the crew until you collapse half-dead? 10. After a contagion outbreak and another scientist lost to death-by-alien-snake, the missing scientist left for dead in the caves returns to the ship as a zombie spider monkey. Do you: A) Leave the door tightly secured until you can determine the status of the unresponsive crew member with the variety of cameras located on the ship? B) Open the door and go out alone to investigate, then kick the creature while turning your back to it until it smashes your face in with its zombie strength? 11. You come face to face with an Engineer, the creator of humans, after waking him from hypersleep. Do you: A) Attempt to speak his language and introduce yourself, your crew, and your mission? B) Barrage him with fat mama jokes until he becomes an enraged Neanderthal and tears your head off with his bare hands? 12. A disc shaped spaceship rolls towards you in the final moments of its crash landing. Do you: A) Run ten yards to the right or left, perpendicular to the ship's path, and let it roll on by? B) In the heat of the moment you forget about the steamroller scene from Austin Powers, and so for a full minute you attempt to outrun the crashing town-sized spaceship by following its trajectory as it slowly barrels towards you? How did you do? Total your score and share it in the comments! All A's = 1 point All B's = 0 points (Hopefully you managed better than the total of ZERO scored by the characters plucked straight out of a teenage slasher film to masquerade as scientists in the movie Prometheus!) "On behalf of scientists everywhere, I am ashamed to count you among us." -Milburn ' http://www.amazon.com/review/R2I167RDKRWB5X/
July 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Nightmayor said ...

I think that the Engineers were creators that lost control of their creations. An while the Aliens are dangerous. The saw Mankind with its ability to create as well as being an even greater threat. So they sought to destroy us if we ever acquired space travel with instructions to a facility that would destroy us.

I thought that Weyland was under the opinion that the Engineers would be benevolent and would immediately take pity on him. Cryosleep or Stasis isn't immortality, Its longevity. Ripley went into Stasis for 57 years however she did age. (the 7years it took to make the sequel) With that in mind maybe the doctors of earth told him he could exist another 2-3 years in stasis. Enough time to get to the planet but not enough to wait for the Prometheus to get back. A desperate dying man can't wait. So he went along in hope of a cure sooner.
July 14, 2012 at 5:52 PM, said ...

Man, Co-host just confused me more than this film did with his long-ass explaination at the end.
July 12, 2012 at 8:48 PM, said ...

Best movie ever
July 12, 2012 at 7:04 PM, said ...

Thank you guys so much for doing this discussion!!!!!!!!
That being said, I think Korey and Cyrus are being really, really hard on this. I totally agree with Co-Host and Leon that the plot "problems" with this film are totally explainable with a little thought, and like Leon I was processing and making conjecture about the backstory as the movie went along (although I am a big ALIEN fan). The problems with character motivations are justifiable, and the only failing I found with the film.

****The central theme of Prometheus (which I think Korey and Cyrus miss) is creation and destruction, which I feel is a perfect metaphor for the xenomorph since it is born from the death of its host. Creation motifs are all over the film in obvious to less obvious forms: Shaw’s infertility, consistent references to religion, the black bile creating hyper-aggressive life, the hall of alien murals, Weyland's obsession with death, and all the various issues raised by the “artificial person” David. The question you are left with at the end of the movie is magnificent: "They (the Engineers) created us and then they decided to kill us. I want to know why!"

--> My theory about the maps and the Engineers' motives is that the Engineers recognized humanity’s ingenuity and destructive potential, which would obviously frighten them enough to destroy it. The star maps left on Earth were an insurance policy: should humanity advance far enough that it could accomplish interstellar travel, then humans would be led to the facility. If humans had evolved to a rational level then they would recognize the destructive potential of the black bile and leave; on the other hand, if they had remained hostile and warlike then the weaponry on the planet would surely wipe them out (just as the Weyland-Yutani Company attempts to do with the xenomorphs, although they are thwarted by the sacrifice of Ripley, a rational and decent human being).

The fact that you guys felt compelled to even HAVE this discussion proves the point that this movie, while it may not be brilliantly philosophical, still effectively explores great philosophical themes; rather like Inception and The Matrix were blockbusters that made people think about reality and perception. I am so glad that Ridley Scott chose to return to this series, and I hope they make this a trilogy!
July 10, 2012 at 3:21 AM, said ...

THE BLACK GOO:

The black goo didn't just do "what the script needed it to" like Cyrus said (no rudeness intended). It just makes you the weapon version of yourself. It gave Noomi Rapace's boyfriend Zombie dick, so when he put his infected seed inside of her infertile womb, it created a weapon version of her miracle baby; meaning SHE became the FIRST ORGANISM to do an Alien-style gut bust.

Noomi Rapace is the mother of all "GUT-BUSTING" Aliens because black goo wasn't ever linked to birthing belly babies. Anything before HER pregnancy was Zombie-style, like the worms or the on-fire guy with the gross head.

This means that the Xenomorph at the end of the film would have to somehow later get to LV426 in order to birth the eggs from "Alien", possibly at the expense of the Engineers on that ship. That's the only way I see Noomi Rapace being the direct mother of the Xenomorphs.

Oh snap, maybe because she's the momma and an Engineer is the pappa, that makes the Xenomorph like symbolism-Jesus: the product of God and his Creation (the human Virgin Mary).
July 10, 2012 at 3:20 AM, said ...

THEORY:

I think that humans were created as weapons just as much the black goo was. The difference is that humans were created in "god's own image" (modeled off of the engineers themselves). The problem with making weapons based on intelligent organisms is that they can build their OWN weapons and become unruly.

Then HUMANS built robots in THEIR own image and looked what happened. David can be as threatening to humans as humans can be to the engineers. The relationship between David and his creators (humans) will straight up parallel the relationship between humans and THEIR creators (Engineers).
July 09, 2012 at 5:31 PM, said ...

@Carrot

You're being extremely rude.
July 09, 2012 at 3:48 PM, manton harding said ...

why do i keep hearing people say that the black goo in Prometheus made the snakes. the goo mutated the worm that was shone into the snake thing. the goo is a mutagen that changes everything into a weapon
July 09, 2012 at 7:50 AM, said ...

@Carrot Bravo sir on your masterful display of trolling. Good day, ser.
July 09, 2012 at 4:19 AM, said ...

Well done Carrot on some brilliant trolling *tips hat*
July 09, 2012 at 12:52 AM, said ...

@William Blackshire

Idiotic statment

Avatar had almost TWICE the budget and was mass appeal shlock (like ALIENS), which is why it made so much money.

Prometheus was something more and too much for the common teen.
July 09, 2012 at 12:50 AM, said ...

@WilliamBlackshire

Another psudeo intellectual too embarrassed by his own short combings and lack of mythological knowledge.

You picked up the jesus symbolism, but missed the Frankenstein a Modern Prometheus, Hindu references, Annunaki, all of it.

It's not about being "smart" it's about a film being deep and complex with symbolism.
Nothing that you know about obviously.

1) Obviously the suits were picked by there technology as the holograms were recorded.

Don't tell me you needed even THAT explained. What a poor spoonfeed teen. Not use to quality.

How Lazy of you.

2) No they weren't. He got afraid when they saw the dead body. He mentioned nothing of the door, he was simply saying about leaving the building. Elizabeth Shaw was the one who said not to open the door and about what was behind it.

3) Weapon is a way of looking at it. It was clearly religious in nature, which can go hand in hand with religions, as I'm sure you know Huitzilopochtli and the like.

Engineers are Transhumans worshiping the protohuman Deacon.

The Perfect Organism who Elizabeth consequently is involved with his rebirth.

4) Only confusing to a simpleton use to being spoon fed.

5) If I SAY so? I'm sorry, but you call 5 people being brutally maimed minor?

Hater, you are really grasping for straws trying to attack this masterpiece. LOL

6) No it was not. It was an unfeeling and unemotional one.

Robots are Sociopathic in Ridley Scott's universe

7) Nope

8) It did.

Over your head I guess.

9) Shaw was a very moving and complex character. And one of the best science fiction females of all time.

Much better than the typical all about self preservation types.

And necklace given to her by the father was a symbolic representation of the concept of faith her father taught her, which she applied to the ancient astronaut theories. As she grew up around many faiths, the father asked her what she believed in. This leads us to believe she is in fact a Deist who is searching for "God"

At the end she recognizes her creators disdain for humans and chooses to go to where they came from, having nothing left but her need for answers. After Cuddles kills the Engie, the god they worship "Deacon" emerges

Amazing performance by the best actress in the world.

A Modern Masterpiece

IN RIDLEY SCOTT I TRUST :)
July 08, 2012 at 11:31 PM, said ...

I'm glad to hear that some of ya'll didn't buy into all these this movie is so smart you don't get it crap... to me this movie is just a B-list scifi horror movie with an AVATAR budget behind it! If it wasn't for the fact it was connected to Alien and Scott directing it it'd been forgotten by now till the DVDs were released.
July 08, 2012 at 9:39 PM, said ...

@ Carrot

You know, I was only being sarcastic when I said you can lower the bar..

"Just your own silly opinion" Yeah, duh Fred, wtf else would we be discussing? Your opinions aren't facts either, ya know, all the more ironic since Prometheus is the very definition of pseudo intellectual, what with all the supposed Sumerian mythology references. Your ability to look up and cut and paste Wikipedia notwithstanding, having a deep, intrinsic knowledge of Sumerian history and culture isn't mandatory for anyone to enjoy this film.

1) Suit monitor devices? Like the ones you just made up? My bad, I didn't realise that the holographic recordings only worked with the suits, I must have missed when this was explained.....

2) I know they didn't see the room... what does that have to do with anything??? They still knew it was the very same room that they were previously too afraid to enter... they came back in there because thats were the magical black goo and the convenient slugs were, and so thats where something exciting and dramatic needed to take place. Lazy.

3) So before the "horrible thing" happened, it wasn't an innocuous weapons factory...?

4) OR they make confusing ones that only serve to inject some forced drama into an otherwise normal situation. Being human means you have a degree of common sense. I didn't want boring scientists, I wanted goddamn ones that felt remotely real.

5) lol "lessening its importance." Ok, if you say so..

6) No, it was a stupid experiment.

7) To each his own. I found it frustrating and manipulative that we need to wait for a sequel to be shown the answers. Like I said, shit can't just happen for no reason. Having no pay-off ultimately left me feeling quite flat and let down, no, not because I'm stupid or want things spoon fed as you so condescendingly keep implying, I want things to make sense to feel that sense of pay off. Having something happen with no motivation feels forced and arbitrary.

8) Your answer has nothing to do with what I said.

9) Yes, Shaw was truly memorable. We'll be discussing the rich complexities of her "I start the movie with faith..then that is only kind of challenged later.. then the movie ends and I still have faith.." And I used the example of the pilots to illustrate how the film is filled with cookie-cutter red-shirts that are only there to advance the plot and serve their immediate function. Again, lazy.

Do you honestly think that there's NOTHING wrong with this film?
July 08, 2012 at 4:07 PM, said ...

@Robbie Atelier
Just because you managed to pick some of it up, doesn't make it "lame" and "trite" at all. Just your own silly opinion. Christopher Nolan gives you heavy handed singular messages where Prometheus was more ambiguous with the different themes. I only bring him up because lots of psudeo intellectual kids think he's so "deep". with his simple singular messages and grand hamfisted speeches. Prometheus actually gave you something REAL and you reject it because you like being able to understand everything.

Like the whole theme with Frankenstein A Modern Day Prometheus, I seriously doubt you picked up the first time you watched it.

Or the Sumerian mythology with the Engineers

Helpers - "g"ods - Igigi - Engineers. (Android like living beings....Biomechanical humanoid. Key features- Pale skin and large black eyes. Also known as watchers, Grigori, and Archons) (in many summerian texts they are actually referred to as "Pilots". Pretty much the Annunaki Air Force.)

When the Annunaki began terraforming the earth, they had the Igigi do the work for them. After a few thousand years the Igigi revolted and went on strike. The Annunaki then decided to create humans to do the work for them.

They sacrificed one of the rebel Igigi named Geshtu to use his blood and dna to make human beings, by mixing it with elements native to the earth.

(In the movie, this can be explained by the the different oval spaceship at the beginning representing the spaceship of the Annunaki) Also tying in to the black shapless form hovering over the waters in Genesis

Though sometimes synonymous with the term "Annunaki," in one myth the Igigi were the younger gods who were servants of the Annunaki, until they rebelled and were replaced by the creation of humans." shown in the extended scene with the Elder.

Now on to your "questions", since you need to be spoonfeed and HATE true science fiction and being left with any wonder (sad)

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1) They were not running from the black goo.. They were running through the corridors by something infected by the black goo that was running around chasing them. The thing did not show up because it did not have on the suit monitor devices.

2) Feifield and Millburn NEVER SAW THE ROOM. David opened it afterwords. Did you even watch the movie??? XD

Allso Feifield was the afraid one. Millburn was the one who wanted to be his friend and was trying to act tough.

3) It's called a mystery. Too much for kids like you. Obviously the place was religious in function as well. The time when they made the star maps that horrible thing had not occurred there, killing all of them at the location.

4) So he wouldn't be kicked out of the ship and thrown in quarantine.

Sorry you wanted boring cookie cutter scientist, but these were actually humans. And humans make bad decisions.

5) As you said, the people were knocked out.

After Elizabeth Shaw stumbled in a bunch of people were just brutally murdered in the hangar by Frankenfeifield, lessening its importance and the overall impact.

6) Wow....

"Try Harder", indicating in fact, for them try something else to get answers.

To move it forward, which David related to preforming experiments.

David chose Holloway as a test subject due to him volunteering in his eyes. Also David possibly liked messing with Shaw and may have seen him as an obstacle, or wanted to see her reaction. The subtle nature of his character is what makes David a great character. Not everything has to be spelled out straight forward like an Avengers movie.

7) It is called a mystery and that is what make it brilliant. That Engineer's mission was to destroy human life for whatever reason. Symbolically Shaw's divine child kills him, resurrecting itself as DEACON. The very creature worshiped by the Engineers. That was foreshadowed by the alter towards Deacon located in the weapons room.

The perfect organism.

8) Again, you were not watching the film. It was David who figured out how to lift off the first "head", revealing the humanoid head underneath.

9) All of the main characters were memorable. You could point to ANY film and claim a background side character as non memorable. Go ahead and list your favourite films for that matter. Seriously, zero background characters?

You must be trolling dude.

10) I suggest you watch the scene again. The ship turns with them on the way down (perhaps engineer was trying to his them?) They do a closeup of the part of the ship that looks like a screaming face. Also there is debris falling all around them. Easy to say from the comfort of you chair with a camera pointing BEHIND them.

People like you should just not watch movies.

I do not see how you enjoy anything in life. =)

Prometheus, a modern masterpiece.
July 08, 2012 at 3:28 PM, said ...
July 08, 2012 at 9:08 AM, said ...

@ Carrot

No, I'm complaining about the lame and trite religious symbolism of it, in counter to your argument about the film being layered and "deep," coz, IMO, that's some lazy and horribly obvious writing right there, it being one example of many. But if this kind of sledge-hammer-to-the-face symbolism appeals to you, then by all means continue to jack off on your Prometheus shrine whilst you stick pins into your Christopher Nolan doll (I'm not entirely sure why you keep bringing him up since I didn't mention him once, but since you have a clear chip on your shoulder about him and coupled with your dramatic generalisations about the state of humanity, its ironic given that, whether you like or hate Nolan's films, they're typically well constructed in terms of their plotting. Not even the most irrational Nolan hater could fairly and objectively argue otherwise, surely? (although I'm sure you can lower the bar ;))

Somehow I doubt anything I say will waver you in your firm opinion of Prometheus being a timeless masterpiece, and you're certainly entitled to think whatever you like and go crazy filling in the logic gaps, but since you asked so nicely:

1) Why did the hologram Engineers, if they were indeed running from the black goo, decide to run inside the very room containing vials and vials of the black goo? (don't get me started on how convenient it is that the hologram recordings show just enough to give us enough key exposition, yet just not enough so as to maintain the sense of mystery... we see the Engineers running away, but not from what lol) Convenient, no?

2) Why did the 2 scientists, who were previously too afraid to even consider entering the very same room, eventually decide to wait out the night....IN THAT VERY ROOM?? (let's ignore what everyone else has already said about the worst biologist in the galaxy.. a fucking 5 year old would have the good sense enough to not approach an obviously threatening creature..) Not to mention those little slug things that their footprints unearthed.. I mean, how long must have those things been in that room, but it's right when the humans arrive that they suddenly decide to crawl over 3 feet and immerse themselves in the evil goo.. convenient, again. Oh, and again with the snake monster, but it appears once, kills someone, then its never seen or heard from again, and never even brought up again. Hmm, a monster attack right when the story needed something kinda exciting to happen after all the talkie scenes. Again, convenient.

3) As Cyrus was asking, why did the Engineer star maps point us towards a seemingly innocuous weapons factory? Why did the early humans idolise that system in particular??

4) Why did Holloway, when he saw a freaky sperm worm ON HIS EYEBALL, not just turn to his girlfriend, who he just boned, and do something crazy and far-fetched, like, Oh, I dunno... TELL HER for fuck's sake?!? Why would he keep that a secret????? He literally had NO MOTIVATION WHATSOEVER not to just inform her. This is yet more stupid, lazy, forced drama sheerly there for the sake of stupid, lazy, forced drama.

5) So they're going to operate on Shaw, so she attacks her 2 crew-mates, runs away (no one follows her *shrugs*) gets the thing out herself, and then ALSO decides not to inform anyone of the freaky alien squid that JUST CAME OUT OF HER, that's still right there, inside the ship WITH THEM....What.The.Fuck? And not only that, no one bothers to ask her why she's stumbling around the ship nearly naked, covered in blood and alien amniotic fluid, with a huge fucking gash on her stomach that wasn't there ten minutes ago.. But it's okay you see, coz we're meant to be distracted and not think about all that logic stuff because its at that precise moment that they reveal Weyland is on the ship!! ZOMG, what a twist....!!! Fucking.Stupid.

Satisfied yet? No, you say? Good, me either:

6) "Try harder," as everyone is aware, obviously translates to, "Hey, yeah.. like, take this alien black goop that you literally know NOTHING about, and that you just discovered exists like an hour ago, and infect some innocent guy with it.. just to see what happens.. what could possibly go wrong?!? Don't do something stupid like look at it under a microscope or anything. No risk there at all, right, especially considering the super old dude who I'm sworn to save is literally hiding in the next room over......." Fucking.Retarded.Worst.Experiment.Ever.

7) Unless you aware of the whole, "Jesus was an Engineer thing," there's no clear motivation as to explain why that Engineer wakes up (Why was he in stasis by the way? Who put him there, and why? Did he do it to protect himself when all the other Engineers died? Was he left there for us to find one day, or never???) and suddenly goes on a killing spree. This was a stupid and lazy excuse to have a fast paced, easily accessible good guy vs. bad guy climax action scene (and yes, I did get it when they said something to the effect of, "They hate us for some reason," but it was all still thoroughly under-explored) Entire dramatic plot developments and motivations that stem from ambiguous and barely explored ideas only serve to leave me, and plenty of others, wanting more. Shit can't just happen for no goddamn reason.

8) Shaw, on top of being an archaeologist, also happens to be an alien biology expert, since she clearly knew precisely where to poke every rod into the recently-discovered severed alien head. She must have taken the multi-purpose class at "Scientist" school. Too bad to the ship's actual biologist was stuck in the cave busy being a complete retard.

9) Memorable characters.. yeah, that Asian pilot guy and his friend.. man, they're friendship tied the whole movie together.. I mean, the way they made that friendly bet, and their truly memorable banter, Oh those guyssss..I dunno about you, but they were probably my fav characters.. so deep and rich.. I was really moved and saddened when they died........

10) Apparently Vickers, on top of being a bitch for no reason, doesn't possess peripheral vision, since she was unable to run sideways, what, like, 5 feet?

There are others, I just cbf listing them all. No, I'm not nit-picking, or over-analysing. These cursory thoughts occurred to me as I was sitting there in the theatre on my first viewing. None of it went over my head, because there's nothing about this film that remotely difficult to understand. In 20 years time, when CGI is better in general, people won't have any reason to discuss this film, or even remember it, because at the moment, the CGI and Fassbender's performance are the only 2 things even notable about it.

I'm sure you have some convenient answers for everything I've listed (probably along the lines of, "You just don't GET IT!! NOLANITE!! CHILD!!) but rest assured.... I get it. I truly do, and even the most retardedly ardent defender couldn't realistically say that this film doesn't possess its fair share of problems.
July 07, 2012 at 1:35 PM, said ...

Sequel
July 07, 2012 at 12:33 PM, said ...

@Robbie Atelier

Too bad that wasn't the quote

Now you're complaining about an ALIEN having the form of a snake?! Do you realize how retarded that sounds?

There were no plot problems, and if you have them please list them. It either went over your head or was not meant to be explained.

PLEASE tell me what films you DO think are deep. Dark Knight?? Inception?? Give me a break.

Noland has turned this generation into soft headed drones that need grand speeches and simple singular messages at the end.

Prometheus had great writing writing, memorable characters characters, zero plot holes or inconsistencies. But it's a free website, so you're allowed to have bad taste kid. =)
July 07, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Rudy said ...

@carlos duarte

That info about LIDAR is interesting and all but you having worked with it know that it is processor and memory heavy and therefore would be difficult to display using sub-par gear (although it's the future, is it really sub-par?). The general public don't know this, so when the guy looks at his wrist and says "this way" you can't blame us for thinking that he has some kind of link to the map. This is the kind of info that the audience needs to know, unless they expect us to sit there with our phones looking it up on the internet.

The reason they get lost is still not explained. When the storm is incoming and the others have to quickly rush to the vehicles it takes them no time at all. They couldn't have been that far from the entrance then. Plus they were in a panic trying to get back and they found their way out. The other two had plenty of time and weren't rushing and still got lost. The only reason I can see is that the script demanded that they get lost and so it was.

The guy taking off his helmet was stupid. What if there was alien bacteria that couldn't be picked up by their sensors? Or what if he introduced a foreign bacteria to any alien life they encounter? He comes all this way to meet his creator and he gives them the common cold and wipes them out. Great going guy. Taking off the helmet is not always just about breathable atmosphere.
July 07, 2012 at 7:27 AM, carlos duarte said ...

thank you so much for this. this kind of treat is what makes me a spill addict. much success to korey and the rest of the crew in all of their endeavors.

one thing: maybe one reason why elizabeth shaw knew so much about the robotic surgery machine on that sick bay was because she had a backstory of her studying --or at least keeping up with-- medicine. this interest might have stemmed from her anthropologist father dying of ebola. when holloway is coming down with the full onset of whatever the black goo is doing to him, in the "head" chamber (where they find millburn and fifield), and he asks shaw for a gunshot prognosis, he begins with "you know about infections".

one other thing: i've worked with lidar -- what the technology that the "pup" 3d scanner drones use, is actually called. the data generated is really processor and memory intensive, and is very dificult to display properly using sub-par gear, which is probably why they couldn't just patch it into their suits' displays. the reason they kept walking around inside the structure was because they had hours and hours to kill, they were basically bored. once they saw the big pile-up of bodies and got note of the faint "life-form" signal from janek, they headed "east", and i assume the "head" chamber was the easternmost part of the structure.

finally: the reason they had breathable air inside the structure and could therefore take of their helmets, was because of a chemical reaction where constantly condensing and evaporating water was sequestering the CO2 from the outside air. this is explained in the film at the part where they see the big hole in the ground, below this huge shaft that leads outwards.
July 07, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Dr. Detfink said ...

At the end of the day, few space travel Science Fiction film in the last decade has come close to inspiring discussion except Sunshine & Moon.

I don't include the last Star Trek because that was more action/adventure & a Kool-Aid advertisement called red matter.

It's not a perfect science fiction film but it's up there with one that people will keep coming back to...
July 07, 2012 at 4:54 AM, said ...

Co-Host & Leon are in sheer denial of the solid truth spoken well enough both by Korey & Cyrus.
July 07, 2012 at 3:08 AM, Rudy said ...

@Mike Walton

Congratulations on defending War of the Worlds. We are discussing Prometheus.

Do you really think the large amount of people who dislike this movie dislike it because it didn't spoon feed us the answers? If so, you clearly are not listening to peoples complaints.

People keep posting youtube videos with "explanations" to Prometheus. But they ignore all the problems and just discuss the themes and subtext. That seems to be the main difference between those that like it and those that don't. People who just look at all the hidden subtext and think "isn't it intelligent, you really need to think"; and then us saying "hang on, the characters are not making sense, there's plot holes everywhere and the science is atrocious".

If you can't express your ideas in intelligent ways people are gonna call you out on it. And we are calling out Prometheus for this reason.

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Synopsis: Director Ridley Scott steps back into sci-fi territory with this tale that takes its cues from the Alien films -- which it was originally supposed to tie in to before growing into its own mythology during pre-production. Jon Spaihts and Damon Lindelof provide the script, while The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo's Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender he... Continue Reading