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Podcasts - The League of Extremely Ordinary Gentlemen: Volume 8, Issue 1: Changes

With the start of a new volume comes new changes. Changes to format, changes to host (sort of), and changes yet to come. This week we get our buddy Joe Parsons on again with us as we deconstruct and argue about The Walking Dead season 2, amongst other things.

Tags: leog, leon, cyrus, podcast, spill, spill.com, comics, tv, movies, joe parsons, the walking dead, master pancake

137 Comments for The League of Extremely Ordinary Gentlemen: V...

March 28, 2012 at 3:18 PM, MavenCree said ...

I'm actually glad they're diverging from the comic. I actually had to stop reading the comic because it was just too damn dark. I was getting depressed. And I'm hoping that the Governor thing is not *as* dark. Dark, but don't make it a snuff film like the comic.

And driving back 300 miles to shoot Shane... that would've been the STUPIDEST thing the tv show could've done. Works in a comic book... DOES NOT TRANSLATE TO THE SCREEN.
March 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM, MavenCree said ...

I thought the walking dead *DID* show Herschal being broken. Did you see the look on the actor's face when the barn assault was going on? He was destroyed and it was written all over his face. Didn't even need to say it the next episode. Good acting will do that.
March 28, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Nedan said ...

Thank you for finally bringing up the fact that in every zombie movie, regular people can all of a sudden get head shots. As someone who has shot hand guns I can say that it is really difficult to get a headshot on a stationary target, let alone a moving one that is trying to eat you alive.
March 26, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Sam said ...

I got my first two questions ever sent in answered on LEOG. Feelin' special. ^.^ So, to clarify, Leon got it: I didn't feel like she fit into the universe that had been set up in this show, not that the idea of a character with a katana who has pet walkers is unbelievable, she just didn't seem to fit. What all of you are saying, however, makes sense. I'm sure she'll fit in quite well... The introduction just seemed a little much.
March 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM, -n8 said ...

- - - LEOG LISTENING pt3 - - -

Hour 1 Min 29:53 - I had typed that joke out a split second before you said that Leon...

* - * - FOLLOWING COMMENTS WRITTEN WHILE IN WALKER SPOILER TERRITORY - * - *

Hour 1 Min 32: - It's a surprising and jarring introduction to the character, but when you look at the whole thing (sword that is light, fast, and doesn't need to be re-loaded like a gun) and two "neutered" zombies to mask her smell from the other walkers, it makes a kind of sense. This is a new world and new solutions to problems would have to be employed.

(Later on Cyrus and Joe make the point that many characters would have dealt with things in a different way than Rick and the Gang. which I agree with wholeheartedly)

Hour 1 Min 36: - I really freaking miss Tyrese from the comic. REALLY liked that character.

Re: Laurie- Jeez... There are scenes I really like with her character, and then there are other scenes where I am looking at the screen, very puzzled as to what I just saw her character do. She's the most inconsistantly handled character on the show, in my opinion.

Hour 1 Min 53:26 - I was thinking the SAME THING. Which LEOGer (and LEOG guest) has the sounder Zombie plan?

Hour 2 Min 6:19 - Despite my criticisms on Kirkman's writing style, Walking Dead is the title where I have no complaints.

Hour 2 Min 8:01 - (after hearing the phrase 2, 3 times, Now Fleetwood Mac is stuck in my head)

Hour 2 Min 9:40 - HAH. That's hilarious. The Dead-fast Club.

Hour 2 Min 19 - Favorite quote of the show "I don't know why that popped in my head, I guess I just want some Flan."

WHOA that just sort of ended! I downloaded the MP3, and it just cut off! Was there a LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE at the end of this episode?

Ah well. regardless, great episode everyone!
March 26, 2012 at 8:40 PM, -n8 said ...

- - - LEOG LISTENING pt2 - - -

Min 54:27 - Yoko 3000. Brilliant. GEt to work, Fan-artists!

But yeah, seriously, a moment of silence for Karaoke Apocalypse..... (hits pause...)

Hour 1 Min 1:11 - For most of the show's life, the BBC was silent on whether or not Timelords could change sex between regenerations, and there was a lot of debate among fans if it was possible. Thankfully the debate seems over, with just a few lines In Gaiman's Season 6 episode "The Doctor's Wife" but there hasn't been an in-canon Female Doctor, but there has been a few in Satellite Who projects. There has been a female Doctor in the BBC Children in Need comedy special "Doctor Who and the Curse of the Fatal Death" where Joanna Lumley played the 14th incarnation of the Doctor... And there was a Big Finish Audio adventure, from their "Doctor Who Unbound" line (a series of "What if" departures from the Canon Dr. Who timeline) wherein Arabella Weir plays a new 3rd Doctor, where she's hiding from the Timelords during the Doctor's Exile from Gallifrey, appropriately named "Exile"

And in regards to a Black Doctor, there's no reason AT ALL why there can't be one. In the Classic series , during the Forth Doctor's story "Destiny of the Daleks" his Timelord Companion Romana regenerated... (the scene itself was pretty campy and tongue in cheek, wherein she didn't "Die" exactly, but was instead "trying on new bodies" like outfits, incliuding a blue skinned alien woman). So if we take this into consideration, It's been suggested that, if it's not triggered by death or serious injury, and done voluntarily, the Timelord can control what their new regeneration looks like.

Also, before Matt Smith was officially cast as the 11th Doctor, there was a LOT of chatter and talk about Patterson Joseph being cast as the Doctor. That would have been fucking awesome.

Hour 1 Min 1:43 - Chameleon Circut, duh... ;)

Hour 1 Min 10:46 - REALLY wished that Princess Di storyline actually happened the way it was originally conceived.

Hour 1 Min 18 - I like this little roleplay. LEOG dramatics!

Hour 1 Min 19 - Now I want to see an old-timey Mass Effect. "This week! on the Mass Effect Radio Hour... Brought to you by Jello! We join our heroes this week, with Commander Shephard and his Untouchables riding as fast as they can to the Rondevous point..."

Hour 1 Min 20 - Rubio you mispronounced "Fn'guh Bung"

BREAK!
March 26, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

Hey, I haven't been on here for months, so believe me, I'm not one to judge about lateness lol
March 26, 2012 at 7:56 PM, -n8 said ...

They're back, Jose. :)

(They're a little late this episode...but they're back)
March 26, 2012 at 7:39 PM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

Ah, how I've missed Nate's time stamped comments...I'm actually serious, here. I really missed them!
March 26, 2012 at 7:07 PM, -n8 said ...

- - - LEOG LISTENING pt1 - - -

Min 3:15 - When you lose at Jeopardy, the 2nd place winner gets $2,000, and the 3rd place winner gets $1,000.

Min 11:50 - Dada was an artistic movement, that essentially said that nothing has any meaning. It tried to push the limits of what people thought of as art, stripped away of any aesthetics. To a Dadaist, it just "is" and it doesn't mean anything. There is no rationale. It differs somewhat from Surrealism... it used symbolism and iconography, you could interpret the works and extrapoloate some sort of meaning or emotion that made sense to you (ohh, melting clocks and ants... it totally means, blah blah...). Dadaists like Duchamp would simply put a urinal in a gallery and say nothing else about it. The idea being audiences at the time would be hard pressed to find any significant meaning behind it. (whether or not it's valid, worthwhile, or even accomplished what it set out to do, that's the question. But I'm sure the Dadaist wouldn't care about the question.) :)

Re: The Untouchables: I have a soft spot in my heart for that movie... it was my first r-Rated Gangster movie. though I totally admit it hasn't aged well, but a lot of what I originally liked about it from the time I saw it as a kid, it's still there. Every couple of years I can dust it off, enjoy the awesome Ennio Morricone soundtrack, Connery, and the overall feel. There are much better mafia vs. Fed movies out there but I award a few nostalgia points for this one.

Min 31:31 - Spitzer was New York. He actually visted Syracuse (my home town, actually came to our building) one week before his big scandal broke in the media.

Min 35:50 - That is State-Fair performance art. he'll have a booth right between the Lemonade stand that's shaped like a big lemon, and the booth that sells the pirated liscened music TShirts. That's it. State Fairs for you, Sandman!

Min 39:00 - 42:55 - Okay, go here, all you frustrated creative people who are trying to make something of yourself... listen to this chunk right here. A very good way of looking at your work and how to approach things.

Min 45:11 - Yeah. Uh. "Little" isn't the word I'd use (OH! OH no i didn't! well.. yes. yes I did. Hey Brian, I love ya buddy! but we could both stand to get back to our fighting weights...)
March 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM, said ...

Just to be accurate... ironically enough, Glenn missed like mad when hanging out the car window. They hit a few sure but there were still plenty of obvious missed shots. I'm just saying because I was noticed the lack of perfect hits compared to the on foot head shots being made with handguns prior to that.
March 26, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

Man, I hope not. I want at least one scene where Daryl and Merle talk outside of a hallucination. Though, I have a feeling Merle might end up being in the prison and with The Governor.

Also, with Sarah Wayne Callies in the show, imagine if they have to stage a Prison Break and for no reason at all pan to her as she says "Not again..."
March 26, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Leon said ...

@Ben J. - Good point.
March 26, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

I really enjoyed the guests on this one. Joe was a welcome addition as he provided such great insights. I haven't read The Walking Dead comics. But I like knowing that we get another take on it. I understand Cyrus' point about not comparing it to the book, as you have to take adaptations as separate entities. But I liked that Joe could elaborate on his points as to why he felt the way he did.

I like The Walking Dead, but I was becoming more and more frustrated with the oddness of this season. But, the good far outweighs the bad. And I'm interested to see where next season goes. Sometimes, all you need is a new location to really get things going.
March 25, 2012 at 11:40 PM, said ...

I enjoy whenever there's a shitload of people on LEOG, but those short parts by Cyrus and Leon are really something truly awesome, to the point that im actually a little angry right now, cuz i grew jelous of the friendship that is between those two old pricks...just the fact that they can talk about how close they are without it coming out a little ackward...like something that would usually end up with "...no homo" is actually pretty friggin amazing.

I listen to All Spill podcasts, including every audio movie review, loading bars, ACOCO's and a LTD from time to time...but whenever its LEOG time, its like my own little christmas every week, you guys are THE best podcast here, and now when i think about it, Ive listened to shitload of other podcasts/radio shows : Stern/O&A/Joe Rogan experience/Smodcast/Bill Burrs monday morning podcast, and you guys are still better than the ones Ive listed...which is actually pretty fucking impressive.

So yeah...great job.
March 25, 2012 at 9:25 PM, Jef said ...

well dadaism only lasted a few years (like, less than five i think but i could be wrong) so in any art history class you're gonna go through it pretty fast
March 25, 2012 at 6:44 PM, said ...

I actually haven't read the books so I don't know much about the way the characters die therein, but you guys going on about the impending demise of some of the cast brought me back to when I was just finishing the series. Especially when Laurie was brought up, because when it was revealed that everyone was already infected, the first thing that popped into my mind was "oh god, what if she has a miscarriage and the baby tries to eat it's way out of her?" Granted, this is a really stupid thought, but your discussion brought it back for me. And frankly, since Laurie is shaping up to be a really annoying member of the group... I'm almost for it. ...Almost. I'm sure that whatever they do will peek my interest though, since this has been one of the few shows to force my heart into my throat and change the rate of my breathing.
March 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Dr. Detfink said ...

Welcome back, Jose Antonio Rivera!
March 25, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Dave said ...

Excellent Reference to Kamala Leon
March 25, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Blackharp said ...

Super Fun show guys, hoping you guys have an intro hour or so with just Leon and Cyrus bullshitting as a regular thing. But maaaaaaaaan, listening to you guys talk about the walking dead you're really not convincing me to watch the show even when all you guys are talking about it being an interesting show to watch. I'll check it out after another season or two, I'm just not sold on the show yet though.
March 25, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

And it seems embedding was disabled. Still, check it out
March 25, 2012 at 2:44 AM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

Adding to the theory that Bond's a Time Lord, someone on Youtube has actually created Regeneration scenes. And they're not that bad!

http://youtu.be/y9Orz7KunE8
March 25, 2012 at 2:25 AM, Dr. Detfink said ...

That was a great issue, Bat21...
March 25, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Jose Antonio Rivera said ...

Quess makes a good point, but I think what most people get from the Indoctrination theory is that there would be a point where Shepard would realize something isn't right, snap out of it and then take down the Reapers from there. Just something...ANYTHING!
March 25, 2012 at 1:18 AM, said ...

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