Podcasts - Shogun 2 : Fall of the Samurai - Audio Review

The expansion explores the conflict between the Imperial throne and the last Shogunate in 19th century Japan, 400 years after the events of the original game – a dramatic clash of traditional Samurai culture with the explosive power of modern weaponry.

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  April 21, 2012 at 9:20 PM, ruben richardson said ...

  lol @ Rhubarb

• April 20, 2012 at 10:06 PM, Hreinn Ingi Jónasson said ...

  they removed this out of the game

  

  
  
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  April 20, 2012 at 6:11 PM, said ...

  Jeff cant get invested in a game? How is he a hardcore gamer at all?

• April 20, 2012 at 4:23 PM, said ...

  Brood War, all the way.

  
  
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  April 20, 2012 at 12:34 PM, said ...

  Hey Nick, they came out with a DLC so you can see blood and gore in the attacks.

• April 20, 2012 at 4:42 AM, said ...

  @Davril

  Correct me if I'm wrong, but while they did exist within Japan at that time, samurai weren't actually using rifles 300 years prior to the 1860s (1560 and thereabouts).

  
  
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  April 20, 2012 at 4:16 AM, Nick Kroboth said ...

  Also nick, they did have a style of combat just like this in the LAST total war game, only that one sucks compaired to Shogun so most people forget about it.

• April 20, 2012 at 4:15 AM, Nick Kroboth said ...

  Muskets were brought to the Islands in the early 15th century by Portuguese traders. Samurai did in fact use them, but not widely because Muskets of the day were widely unreliable when firing, it had nothing to do with honor.

  
  
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• April 19, 2012 at 11:42 PM, said ...

  nice to see Nick on a review again, good job guys!

  
  
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  April 19, 2012 at 11:30 PM, Davril Chorster said ...

  Samurai had rifles more than 300 years ago, which is what I hate about the film "The Last Samurai".  Making it seem like Americans came to Japan in the 19th century and taught them how to use rifles was both pathetic and insulting.
  
  This game series is pretty damn good, though.

• April 19, 2012 at 10:57 PM, David James Lister said ...

  @Charmingman93

  Actually the Samurai where a social class as opposed to simply the warriors everyone thinks of them as and the weapon of a a Samurai was the Katana a true Samurai wouldn't be caught dead with a fire-arm there was no honor in it. In fact the Shogun made sure that stock piling or manufacturing fire-arms by other Daimyos was illegal. Although muskets etc were used in war but a fighting force of all muskets wasn't used in Japanese history till the Meiji Emporer defeated the Tokugawa Shogunate in 1867.

  So in summary you are correct it wasn't a new invention but the use of Western style combat maneuvers and heavier weaponry by the imperial army was new/modern to the Samurai who remember had lived a relatively peaceful and unchanged life since the rise of the Tokugawa Shogunate in the 1600s.

  
  
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  April 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Blood Kain said ...

  And all the voice acting in Shogun 2 was Japanese. Only one guy spoke English and he was Japanese as well (Togo Igawa). They all speak English in Fall though. And I'm pretty sure they are actually Japanese for Japanese characters

• April 19, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Blood Kain said ...

  Both sides used modern weapons. There are even some special gun units in the Shogunate armies.

  Shogunate armies simply get a bonus to traditional (samurai) units but can ignore that and make full modern armies if they want. Hell, a few of them have modern unit bonuses.

  You need the $.99 Blood Pack DLC to get blood and decapitations.

  And if you bought it off Steam then patches are pretty much automatic.

  
  
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  April 19, 2012 at 10:48 PM, said ...

  Thank you nick, i am a big fan history buff, especially war history. man if i had a army right now or a was in past i would be ruling a of countries lol hey i got the same first name as you.

• April 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM, said ...

  Guys the samurai's would have had muskets because if you remember from Shogun 1 and 2 you can have musketeers along with samurai, Tokugawa did use them when he became shogun, but they are not MODERN because they have muskets and the imperials will have rifles and much more modern artillery. So its not a broken promise, also Creative Assembly ALWAYS have buggy games, ALWAYS, since Rome they have gotten worse...

  
  
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  April 19, 2012 at 7:56 PM, EggSpinner42 said ...

  Woohoo! Loading Bar!

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