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Podcasts - THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: Volume 8, Issue 20: Christmas with the Lansdales

You heard that title right: Joe and Kasey return to catch up, tell us more fun stories, and talk about their new movie, "Christmas with the Dead". Check it...

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66 Comments for THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: V...

August 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM, said ...

Don't forget Re-Animator!

God I love that movie.
August 07, 2012 at 2:09 PM, said ...

@Harris: I already conceded that full contact sparring will not be the same as a real fight. My point is, like democracy to political systems, full contact sparring is the best option out of a series of poor alternatives. Unless you can show me a superior training method, I think were done here.

P.S. Read your blog everyday. XD
August 06, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Harris said ...

@Virgil: well since none of the sparring I ever did involved trying to slam my face into the ground or into a wall, box my ears, gouging at my eyes, trying to pull my nuts off, stab me or break a finger...

No, no it didn't resemble any of the fights I've gotten into.
August 06, 2012 at 3:12 PM, said ...

New Leog = My 5 hour shift at the library much easier to bear.
August 06, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Kyle Scott said ...

Baahaha! Leon, you make it really hard for a guy to chop some one up with a vegetable peeler when you broadcast his evil plans all over the internet. The Dark Knight Rises for life! BETTER THAN SEX!

Never fear everyone, you will get your Cyrus back in one piece, less a few brain cells of course.
August 06, 2012 at 1:10 PM, said ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amTx7ZkBHMI&feature=g-vrec
August 06, 2012 at 8:29 AM, said ...

This week's songs:
August 06, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Mario Ruiz said ...

Yes, another episode with my favorite living writer. No one combines laughs and thrills better than Lansdale. Get your hands on any of the Hap and Leonard novels for proof.
August 06, 2012 at 6:02 AM, said ...

@Harris/wuzzman: I definitely see were your coming from. Full contact sparring is not perfect but it is, to my knowledge, currently the best way to determine if the techniques you are being taught are practical and effective in fighting situations. Unless you are involved in underworld kumites, full contact sparring is the closest most of us will get to a real fight. It allows us the chance to get used to our body`s fight or flight reactions and the pain we experience.

@wuzzman: Martial arts don`t exist in a vacuum and not all fighting systems are made equal. Ultimately, it is up the individual fighter to cover their weaknesses. There are many options, from cross training to occasionally rolling at a MMA gym.

@Harris: Wait. So your saying the people you sparred were not really trying to hurt and disable you. I think we have different definations of full contact sparring. Besides that, did you not find practicing your techniques on live, resisting opponents beneficial in your real life fights?
August 06, 2012 at 5:35 AM, said ...

*Uugh.* Everytime martial arts gets brought up on this site it makes my ears bleed. I've been a so called martial artist for 20 years or so and have lived in Japan for the past 10 just to study them.

The thing that I've learned over the years is most martial arts taught in western countries are actually just gross misunderstandings and combinations of Asian cultures.

That said, I enjoyed the Landsdale interviews outside of the combat talk. The martial art stuff is just one of those things that makes me think "jesus, what else are they (people in general) completely wrong about.
August 06, 2012 at 3:15 AM, said ...

amigos invisibles as the first secment break, cool nice taste in music as allways cyrus
August 06, 2012 at 2:55 AM, said ...

I might not agree with all of yall's opions on religion but you have my utmost respect because I can tell that all of you really thought about what you believe and respect theirs beliefs. Great Podcast guys
August 06, 2012 at 1:27 AM, said ...

another great show, have fun on your vacation Cyrus
August 06, 2012 at 1:15 AM, manton harding said ...

this has been stuck in my head for the past 3 days, it wont leave. LET ME GO
August 06, 2012 at 12:36 AM, aden said ...

Nice surprise to hear The Libertines on the LEOG! More British indie rock, please Cyrus. Maybe something like this...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGpo1Kl2crU
August 06, 2012 at 12:20 AM, wuzzman said ...

@The Man of Mystery

Phoenix Wright Christian bale? Fuck yeah.

Anyone liking something to read check me out here

@Virgil Tibbs

I agree. Even as a wrestler, regular sparing occurred, most of the time with none of the protection of an actual match. And that has made me a pretty competent fighter as far as anyone in my highschool could attest 5 years ago. Granted martial arts in general tends to favor attack and defense by someone who IS using your martial art, so the effective, culture shock someone who just spars, even full contact, in his gym/dojo when against a real opponent tends to be overwhelming. Especially if someone used any sort of grappling, boxing, knees and elbows. Street fights are messy, and few gyms or dojos pit their students against different style of fighting to prepare them proper. Which is kinda the whole point of Bruce Lee's MMA doctrine.
August 05, 2012 at 10:17 PM, WellBig said ...

very meh ep
August 05, 2012 at 8:20 PM, said ...

I like to believe christian bale is unable to not pull off the look for anything. He just has a template of a face.
August 05, 2012 at 4:26 PM, HillbillyRobot said ...

Leon: There is a bit of gray around his temples.
August 05, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Harris said ...

@Virgil: Coincidentally, Joe actually has something to say on the subject. Via his FB page:

By the way, I think all serious martial artist, especially when they are younger, should practice full contact sparring. Self-defense and sparring, however, bear less resemblence to each other than one might think, as the conditions are totally different, often take place close up and with someone having grabbed you or thrown a punch. Sparring teaches much, but it teaches you mostly how to spar people using the same techniques you do. It differs in the real deal. All aspects of martial arts should be practiced, but we specialize in self defense.

Speaking as someone with a fair amount of martial arts training myself (black belt in Tae Kwon Do, black belt in Kenpo, several years of study in Kajukenbo, Wahlum Kung Fu and a smattering of Krav Maga... oooh look at me, I'm Billy Bad-Ass) he ain't wrong. All the sparring I've done has been night and day different from the real fights I've been in. Even when the sparring involved grappling techniques and close-in work, it's been completely different from a fight where somebody was actively trying to hurt or disable me.
August 05, 2012 at 3:02 PM, said ...

@Cyrus: Saying the term scientifically impossible is kind of moot. Through the scientific method, when we discover something outside of our body of knowledge, we study/explain it and add it to our body of knowledge. I think scientifically unexplainable is more accurate.

Also, Muay Thai became extremely popular because of its proven effectiveness as a combat sport and its adoption by MMA fighters.

As a general rule of thumb, I’m skeptical about the effectiveness of any martial art that does not test it’s techniques through full contact sparring. Even more skeptical of martial arts demonstrations with dramatic pratfalls.
August 05, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Travis Pickle said ...

I'd just like to thank Joe for Jinx. Edge of Dark Water so transported me, dripping with atmosphere and engaging characters it flows so well I couldn't stop reading it and it would make an awesome movie! like Huck Finn meets No Country for old Men.

;)
August 05, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Rudy said ...

I don't think Bruce Wayne stops being Batman because of the injury; he stops being Batman because he's not needed any more (or so he thinks) because of the Dent act. He becomes a hermit because without Batman or Rachel he has nothing, so his minor injury festers until he's using a cane.

And on the gray hair; I see it.
August 05, 2012 at 7:47 AM, said ...

Cyrus is completely right about what he said about the TDKR with bruce wayne being injured. People who said that they got batman was injured badly at the end of TDK that he couldn't continue when finishing watching the movie are full of poo.
August 04, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Jef said ...

LONG LIVE THE LEAGUE!

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