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Podcasts - A Couple of Cold Ones -August 26, 2012

This week the Top 5, the latest three celebrity deaths, lions getting their asses kicked, death by bridge, Korey's trip, riding the bus to insanity, beating up woman abusers, and Tweets and Emails.

Tags: acoco, korey, carlyle, podcast, spill, spill.com, box office, top 5, movies, neil armstrong, tony scott, phyllis diller

266 Comments for A Couple of Cold Ones - August 26, 2012

September 01, 2012 at 6:56 AM, said ...

@The Black Swordsman:

For the third time, quote mining does nothing to support your argument. You still have presented no evidence or valid reasoning for your claims. I'm sorry I am the honest one that admits he does not know instead of manufacturing a God in the gaps of our current understanding. I'm sorry I don't assign attributes to something I don't even know exists. I'm sorry I can't force myself to believe claims that make the universe seem a little less vast and terrifying.

Enough being sorry:

"Science explains everything."

No, it doesn't; not yet.

"Atheists say that theists are atheists about every other single type of god except for theirs. The key difference is that all of those other gods are gods that share this universe from us."

If God interacts with the physical universe (e.i. miracles), it will leave behind evidence that would imply said God. When proper scientists/ researchers perform studies to find this evidence (For example, the power of prayer), they find nothing to support Theist claims.

"We do not believe in Apollo bringing up the sun. We do not believe in Thor striking lightening bolts. We do not believe in a magical man with a beard in the sky."

The key similarity is that we did not know why the Sun went "up" or why lightening bolts happened; so we stuck in a God until we found the real answer (kind of what you are doing now). Again, God of the Gaps/Argument from ignorance.

"Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence" - Thomas Paine

So basically, assume a God exists and then assume everything is it's creation. Gee, no thanks. Seriously, assuming something is true until proven false does not lead you to the truth. Most often it leads you to accepting contradictory claims. If your unconvinced, go off in a corner and believe that Jesus was the Son of God and Jesus was only a Prophet at the same time.
August 31, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Parakiss said ...
August 31, 2012 at 7:02 AM, said ...

Joseph Gordon-Levitt also goes by RegularJOE
August 31, 2012 at 1:43 AM, PC_Load_Letter said ...

God DAMN this got dark.
August 31, 2012 at 1:17 AM, The Black Swordsman said ...

Science explains everything. I agree with this. I have a bachelors in biology. Believe me I know. I think these guys express perfectly why I think that mathematics and science have a rational origin.

"I find it as difficult to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science." - Wernher von Braun (considered by NASA to be the greatest rocket engineer of all time)

"The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you." - Werner Heisenberg (Noble Prize of Physics for Quantum Theory)

Atheists say that theists are atheists about every other single type of god except for theirs. The key difference is that all of those other gods are gods that share this universe from us. We do not believe in Apollo bringing up the sun. We do not believe in Thor striking lightening bolts. We do not believe in a magical man with a beard in the sky. We simply believe that Theism best explains the science in our world. When Isaac Newton made his laws of Gravity he did not say "aha, I have discovered Gravity, that is why God isn't magically pushing us down." He marveled even more at God's creation.

I personally think Thomas Paine said it best.

"Instead of looking through the works of creation to the Creator himself, they stop short, and employ the knowledge they acquire to create doubts of his existence" - Thomas Paine

This is the trap that all you atheists make.
August 30, 2012 at 4:10 PM, said ...

@The Black Swordsman
1. I am not an Atheist, so do not make quick assumptions and/or use Jumping to Conclusion fallacies or . . . U no look so smart

2. There have been other philosophers (The one I just said in my previous quote that you forgot) that can prove you wrong that it isn't the supernatural. Pythagoras, one of the greatest minds says that everything can be translated (Natural or supernatural) through mathematics, not just "It cannot be explained so it must be . . . some guy in the sky dicking around and got bored"

3. Aristotle was a Roman who believed in the Gods of Olympus so, much like Issac Newton saying that atheists are evil, works in context here as well as to saying "It was for the time to believe these things . . . because it was popular and against to rules to say otherwise unless you want to die" kind of stuff.

4. Atheism is an idea, much like Abrahamism, Buddhism, Gnostism, Shintoism, Greek/Roman mythology and plenty others. The main difference between these religions is that Atheists just don't believe there is a being in the sky pulling the strings (Again, raising several questions that I asked). I may know you are a troll, but how DARE you insult another another person's beliefs. There are many philosophers that believe that there is an immortal being YES; however, there are probably equal or more philosophers who say that not only an immortal being does not exist but say that that idealism can lead to cataclysm. Either you shut the fuck up now or you look more like the Abrahamic idiot your making yourself then you already have.
August 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Michael Burchill said ...

Yo Korey! Did you notice all the ghetto cats in Istanbul? There was kitty fight club in the back alley behind my hotel when I was there. Every night those cats would be howling and beating the shit out of each other.
August 30, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael Burchill said ...

Istabul is a cool city... Walking around is like being in a Bond movie... Awesome history - Awesome Architecture - You gotta know how to haggle... Always start at 10% of the offer!
August 30, 2012 at 1:03 PM, said ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzozSSGETJo&feature=youtube_gdata_player
August 30, 2012 at 12:00 PM, said ...

@The Black Swordsman:

Why is it wrong to explain phenomena with something you have not demonstrated to exist? Answer(starts at 1:30):
August 30, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Alex Thompson said ...

136:20 - lol, you broke Korey!
August 30, 2012 at 7:44 AM, The Black Swordsman said ...

Anyone with a rational mind will see clearly that none of my assertions have been refuted while I have refuted all of yours.

First of all I hate it when atheists do this. We aren't discussing proofs of God. We can merely use what little knowledge we have and see what presuppositions based off of those make the most sense.

Atheism is an ancient idea. Leucippus and Democritus were Greek philosophers who said that there were atoms and that is it. However later on Plato, Aristotle, and Socretes came in and said that it is the more logical assumption that there is something behind the natural that controls it. Something beyond nature. The supernatural. Aristotle said "that there must be an immortal, unchanging being, ultimately responsible for all wholeness and orderliness in the sensible world." Plato's allegory of the caves I think is a very fitting. Atheists are tied together along with theists in a cave. The atheists are saying that the universe is made up of 2d shadows. The theists are saying , no there is a whole different world out there with 3d objects and different color pallets.
August 30, 2012 at 2:19 AM, said ...

Wow I am really surprised and happy my question was answered. I thought there wasnt going to be anytime for mine, but once Korey said he was going to check his email and said my name I was happy. Glad my name was fun for you to say, Korey. And sorry Leon, for it being a popular question asked a lot here. I didn't know. Thanks for answering it still.
August 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM, Jenny said ...

The award for the darkest episode can be collected right here.
Please don't kill yourselves, my lovelies.
August 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM, said ...

If you guys come to Houston for a pub crawl either go to Washington (even though it's kinda fratty) Midtown, Rice Village or Montrose (where you'll feel right at home actually with all the hipsters)

Just don't go to boondocks in Montrose unless you like underage drinking and people doing rails of cocaine in the bathroom...
August 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM, said ...

@Haron Dick Well, true life is a trip indeed, especially when you are using Christianity's greatest weaknesses to defeat them; logic & reason. I can easily get into a nice conversation with a Christian on whether Jesus Christ was real (Which he was, but not exactly as Christians depict him as) and such. It leads to thought provoking philosophy that can lead to discovering who we really are and all that philosophical BS; however, it is where I put my foot down when someone's beliefs are better that anyone else's beliefs. That has lead to Nazism, Fascism, Racism, Slavery, the Indoctrination, War, Corruption, blind stupidity and you get the point.
August 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Haron Dick said ...

@Chaos Jumper. That was cool. A lot of questions and thoughts I did not even think of. Life's a trip.
August 30, 2012 at 12:09 AM, said ...

@The Black Swordsman
1. There is a bit more than "Your wrong" for atheists. It's the concept of Abrahamic religions that "God created everything and you should obey HIM because HE is amazing and bla bla bla" that many atheists (at least the ones I know, I could easily be simplifying things too far) disagree with because of certain philosophies & sciences.

2. Issac Newton, while extremely intelligent, was a catholic christian at the time where atheists were considered unjust and evil. So for him to say that . . . isn't uncommon, but just part of he Christian package of "Every idea and religion is wrong with the exception of our own". One of the greatest philosophers, Friedrich Neitzsche said "God is a thought that makes crooked all that is strait". SEE?! I CAN MAKE CLEVER QUOTES TOO 8D.

3. To say that the earth is in the "Just right" zone in the solar system does not prove god's existence. It just proves how lucky our planet is to be in the place where it is. There are a bunch of other systems that have this same exact situation that we look into and discover every day, but they don't have life on them, now do they? To say that God put us here is the equivalent of saying aliens from the star system Pleiades put us here. Neither cannot be prove or unproven, so clearly it is correct by your logic.

4. A wonderful universe also does not prove the existence of a creatOR but creatION. This comes from the simple "Chicken or the Egg" concept; however, an individual has to be created before he or she creates. This comes from every human, animal, star, cell, and so on and so fourth. To bumble it down and say "God created the universe. . . boom" brings up a few questions; was God bored? If so and if he is an omnipotent being, why was he confronted with days if days did not exist before he created time in the first place? Why exactly would he create human beings, was he selfish? If God came before gender, wouldn't that mean that God is an IT rather than a HE because God can create both male and female? If so, why is God always a he? Is God a misogynist (which in the bible and other Abrahamic religions that would make sense) Is lucifer/satan/the other 5 princes of hell his wife? If God really DOES exist and the bible is "true", why would God create other religions before Christianity to prove that he is the real god? These questions and more could be asked and could basically block out Christian thought; however, we have gone with "GOD DID IT" for over 2000 years.
August 29, 2012 at 11:57 PM, said ...

@Haron Dick Great question. Unfortunately you waste it on a blatant troll. Please don't feed it. Somehow it will find a quote for Newton or Darwin that has nothing to do with what you're talking about in hopes of drawing this on further.
August 29, 2012 at 11:52 PM, Haron Dick said ...

@Virgil Tibbs thank you for that.
August 29, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Haron Dick said ...

@The Black Swordsman. Just because someone feels that there is some god/gods among men does not make it true. Some people quote pseudoscience, fake science and disproved theories as fact of god. Any little or great question that science does not know the answer too is then held up as proof that god is real. Yet you have no real evidence yourself to support your statement. All some people do is poke a the ignorance of science as if that was undeniable evidence of a god. This bugged me. So I will ask you this question. Of all the different religions, of which there are many sets & subsets. All of whom fight against and among one another proclaiming to be the truth, tell me which one is right?
August 29, 2012 at 11:34 PM, said ...

Holy shit a CoCo talks about Christopher Hitchens! My favorite writer, this is Hitch on my leg.
August 29, 2012 at 11:30 PM, said ...

@The Black Swordsman
August 29, 2012 at 11:09 PM, said ...

@Haron Dick: Atheists don't believe in God but you don't need God to be spiritual. For example, religions like Buddhism and Jainism.
August 29, 2012 at 11:02 PM, Haron Dick said ...

@Virgil Tibbs. Thank you for the clip. I was doing a little reading about him. It seemed he was a spiritual person who had big problems with organized religion. Hitler seemed to be a man who wrestled with his spiritual ideals but was still spiritual. His catholic upbringing informed some of his beliefs. Spirituality does not go hand in hand with Atheism therefore he was not an Atheist but he also was not a devoted Catholic. I was wrong about that point.

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