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Podcasts - Let's Do This!!! - December 12, 2012

This episode we discuss what irritates us about The Walking Dead, Alan's struck by lightning story, growing up with junk food, Lunch Traumatic Stress Syndrome, Quentin Tarantino agrees with us, and email.

Tags: lets do this, korey, cohost, podcast, spill, spill.com, the walking dead, quentin tarantino

274 Comments for Let's Do This!!! - December 5, 2012

December 13, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Nedan said ...

You weren't imagining anything regarding to that movie Powder, Even as a kid I recognized there is some weird shit going on here during that shower scene.
December 12, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Marcus Green said ...

Super late to the party but the tv show has absolutely ruined Michonne. You guys complain about romantic comedies able to be solved with some simple talking. It's the same thing here. A lot of conflict is so forced because she refuses to communicate like a human being. Thus passes the fuzzy slippers.
December 09, 2012 at 8:38 PM, said ...

Man, all these people on here having these deep and elaborate discussions about The Walking Dead, and here I am still watching Lost and 24.
December 09, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Michael-Orian Bockus said ...

I started reading the comic. Although the comic is very good, as a whole I prefer the show personally.
December 09, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Dr. Detfink said ...

As someone who has read all 104 issues of the Walking Dead...and NOT on a trade basis but a month to month basis since #1, I have to say there is DEFINITELY a pattern.

That said, I am pretty sure its unintentional because it's all centered around Rick and the souls he encounters. After the horrific arc with the Governor (keep in mind, the TV version is very PG-13) every death from that point on numbs you. You cease having a favorite character because the alternative to dying/eaten is going crazy is something much, much worse. It is designed more around the emotion or lack of emotion you feel as characters exist stage left on a consistent basis.

The TV show is a different animal altogether. It is VERY character driven.

The writers went through such lengths to give juicy made up roles like Daryl and every one's favorite racist, Merle to established actors...keep in mind, both of those characters are not from the book...but other characters were horribly under utilized and its not like the writers didn't have a chance because they extended the life of Shane, the Governor was made WAY more sympathetic.

What I am saying, the changes MAY affect the fates of characters like Tyreese for better or for worse. I'll leave it at that.
December 09, 2012 at 3:20 AM, said ...

Cohost always makes excuses for things he likes. Anywhere else would get points off, but Cohost always gives shows a past. "Normally that would bother me.... BUT it's a franchise I like so I'm not going to criticize it"
December 09, 2012 at 3:04 AM, said ...

Yes this is kinda out of the way/ shameless self promotion. But if any would could check out this new youtube series Im invovled in called "TheScarlettHouse" and tell me what you think that would be Wick-Awe.
December 09, 2012 at 3:01 AM, said ...

It's funny Cohost talking about somebody fantasizing and making excuses for a film... DArk knight Rises, Battle LA, Prometheus, Green Lantern all got higher ratings
December 08, 2012 at 9:39 PM, said ...

@Alan Hall as Hallzzz...
December 08, 2012 at 8:12 PM, shiraaayaannn said ...

Walking Dead Game takes home "Video Game of the year" on spike t.v
December 08, 2012 at 10:16 AM, RA said ...

@MDS hey i agree with you on the fact that i dont think the walking dead people are trying to do this on purpose. what we are saying is.. given the history of hollywood's films and tv shows we think the writers should just give a little more consideration. Even if its innocent it looks bad thats all. The walking dead is an amazing show, ground breaking, steps outside of the norm. I think fans ust dont want to see it doing the hollywood stereotypes we see with most movies and tv shows
December 08, 2012 at 5:15 AM, Michael-Orian Bockus said ...

I cannot wait until Korey chronicles his trip to Narnia, Tx with Alan
December 08, 2012 at 4:38 AM, said ...

@Vasquez mendaz: I might be at a lost here... but where does that .gif come from?
December 08, 2012 at 4:33 AM, said ...

@MDS: ... I'm sure you have better things to do with your time than writing "essays" in the comment section. It's understandable that you may or may not agree with Korey's opinions or emphasis on the Walking Dead, but like I said... go out and play sometimes. Read a book. Have sex. Work out. Play videogames. SOMETHING. That is all... see how easy that was.
December 08, 2012 at 2:01 AM, said ...
December 08, 2012 at 1:56 AM, Coca-cola said ...

Well, if you were a complete fuck-up around zombies I would - especially since the darker the meat the better the flavor. =P
December 08, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Korey From Spill said ...

I believe you would - especially if another black man showed up. KIDDING! :D
December 07, 2012 at 11:31 PM, said ...

We had a fajita Tuesday at my school it looked so gross but it was sooo good!!
December 07, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Coca-cola said ...

@Korey... Oh, by the way. You would love me as a boss. Just one simple rule. Don't try to hide it, don't try to say someone else did it... Just say "Uh, oops I fucked up. I need help fixing it, and now I know not to do it again in the future". Problem found, problem addressed, problem solved, problem hopefully adverted in the future. It's when you try to make it a pattern of fucking up and putting the blame on others or trying to hide it from me, that's when you would hate to see me as a boss. Mostly because I still believe that stupid fuck-ups get fired.

If anything, be happy we aren't in a zombie-world, because I would totally "Otis your ass" if you fucked up. =)
December 07, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Jack said ...

*totally sorry I hate typos haha
December 07, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Jack said ...

I haven't listened to the show yet but you guys should tottally do some kind of Season review of The Walking Dead.
December 07, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Coca-cola said ...

@Michael-Orian: It's not trolling, honestly it isn't. It's more of just plain disagreement on an issue. I think that people are seeing something that isn't in the show at all. Of course, there are aspects I agree with in regards to writers not taking full potential from character/situation. But that's as far as I will go. People are saying there is a "pattern" or "issue" which I don't see and can't justify claiming to see that "pattern or issue".
December 07, 2012 at 11:08 PM, Coca-cola said ...

Well Korey, then what you are talking about is something that completely undermines the whole concept of the show to begin with. We are presented with a zombie-survival show that EMPHASIZES the dangerous situation of the world the characters find themselves in. If the show writers try to "do better in the future" they run the risk of creating a character that just "will never die" in order to keep the character around and do better. That kind of defeats the whole idea behind the show doesn't it? It's one thing to say that a character was under-used (and I will meet you there with T-Dog, but I will not say he was "minor" in anyway whatsoever)... but it's something entirely different to create a character that doesn't have to endure the core-concept of the show just to avoid "offending someone watching".

But seriously, I will be happy to agree to several things that I DO notice in the show. T-Dog's use as a character was not fully used as much as other characters. But then again, there are REASONS for this. He wasn't in the comic-books so there isn't much to pull from there as material. He was injured during the 2nd season, so he's not out and about doing mission after mission. He DOES have the desire to leave the group and has lost his wife, so it's not like he was really compelled to set about having long and meaningful conversation with people that he was thinking about leaving in the first place. There SHOULD have been a moment in Season 2 where he gets a little time to "react" to the death of Jacqui (His wife from Season 1), but honestly I don't know where they could have squeezed that into the show with all the other story-lines they were working on. Which I find funny, because people complained during season 2 that the show was "too slow and taking too long" because it was doing what.... spending time for characters to work out stuff that DID flesh them out more. So, kind of find it funny that last years was all about "we need to put more character into the show" and people got pissed off.... but this year it's apparently the "black man issue" that people are complaining about.

But again, the MAJOR point where I disagree with the whole issue is the use of Oscar to prove this point. Why? We knew right away that Oscar and Axel weren't going to be really key members of the group, at least not until we get through season 3 and into season 4... Meaning that they would have to be sticking around a very long time with the group, which we KNEW that they weren't going to be able to do because they (Both Oscar and Axel) had no concept of what the world was like outside of the prison. Rick wasn't going to risk the lives of the group trying to bring these two into the fold on a whim, and he sure as hell wasn't going to invest the time to get them up to speed knowing already that one mistake means death. So why are we trying to say that T-Dog goes out because Oscar was included? I don't understand this concept at all, honestly don't understand it.

Oscar is just a walking meat-bag and it's only a matter of time before he gets zombie-chomped or killed by someone (which is what happened). Did Oscar have a "moment" on the show? Yes he did, the whole generator room... which I have said was his shining moment. But that 1 moment clearly isn't enough to say that he (as a character) had any type of "staying power". I'm still trying to figure out why people are even MILDLY upset that this character was shot and killed. He had no staying power, basically cut off from the main group, had no redeeming factor other than gen-room scene, and wasn't really involved with the core-group long enough to have really emotional-deep moments. He really WAS a minor character that was already on a limited lifespan. So, why on earth are people trying to use this type of character to "connect the dots" in something? That's what I don't understand at all.

Well, Tyreese only SEEMS to have staying power because he still has some qualities of "Rick" in him that we've seen so far. He doesn't want to push conflict if not needed, wants group safety, feels that his group is the main concern of his..etc,etc. So, I could see the use of Tyreese coming on the show as something very POSITIVE compared to Oscar. Tyreese also has the comic books for character references to work with. Not saying that they will stick with the books, but it gives them a LOT more to work with character-wise. And just looking at the IMDB page for Walking Dead, we already know that he's going to be sticking around for the rest of the season 3 episodes. Now, of course we don't know what they are going to do with him...OR how long he will stick around.... but at least we know that there is a character that the writers can work with.

So, while I DO agree that T-Dog's character could have been worked more fully, he still WAS a major character that had reasons to take a less active role in Season 2. I don't see Oscar coming on as any kind of "place holder" in any format, nor do I see Oscar as a "transitional character" from T-Dog to Tyreese. And honestly, if I had my way about it as a writing staff.... I kind of wish they had put his death at a little later point in the episode. Have T-Dog's death be the end of the episode, then pick up the next week's at the child-birth/Rick's reaction the next episode. I DO HONESTLY believe that T-Dog's death was overshadowed by Lori's death, and I feel that the character should have been given a little bit more impact that wasn't fully explored.
December 07, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Michael-Orian Bockus said ...

@MDS Korey is right, you must be trolling. Just because we mightbhave issue with a show it doesn't mean we do not like it.
December 07, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Korey From Spill said ...

And again, the public 'outcry' is really not an outcry. It's more a situation of people collective saying "did you notice that" and discussing it. Come on, man. Meet me half way on something.

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