This episode the Top 5, screw the Mayans, screw the doomsday people, Wayne Lapierre, DON'T CALL ME CRAZY, and Tweets and Emails.
Tags: acoco, korey, carlyle, podcast, spill, spill.com, box office, top 5, movies, wayne lapierre, mayans
January 10, 2013 at 3:05 AM, Jedifarce said ...
@the "other" will smith
Those are excellent points about Korey's lifestyle. Isn't that how it usually is with liberals, do as I say not as I do. Problem with Korey he lives in a fantasy world that Spill.com is entirely comprised of teenagers and 20 something year-olds which he can browbeat into submission with his general ignorance. Conservatives are more learned than he is willing to believe, Korey's pretty much bought into the idiocy if one conservative makes a ridiculous statement then they all must think alike. I tend to believe in Korey's case, if you don't ingest enough protein your brain starts to shrink. As far as Korey goes when it comes to political commentary, he's as insightful as fecal matter baking on the sidewalk in the noonday sun.
I actually like Leon, but he seems to much of a yes-man to challenge his boss. Billy is nothing more than bully always picking on weaker individuals like Alan. While Co-host might get things wrong from time to time, I'm a fan of his, he's not a A-hole like Korey's turning out to be with his weekly tirades on conservatives and the right wing.
January 09, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Jedifarce said ...
@the "other" will smith Clearly you don't comprehend how stricter gun control laws will help keep firearms out of criminals hands. I guess you're just not as brilliant as our mindless leader and savior Korey Coleman.
http://fox4kc.com/2013/01/07/thieves-break-into-police-sheriff-cars-to-steal-guns/
January 09, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Jedifarce said ...
"Tim K. enters the school armed with a Beretta that he appears to have taken from his parents' bedroom. His father is a member of a gun club and appears to possess the weapons legally." He killed 15 people with that one 9mm handgun.
"Tim K. enters the school armed with a Beretta that he appears to have taken from his parents' bedroom. His father is a member of a gun club and appears to possess the weapons legally."
He killed 15 people with that one 9mm handgun.
Clearly more gun laws would've prevented that tragedy, right Korey Coleman?
January 09, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jedifarce said ...
@http://my.spill.com/profile/Kelly94
Seeing how you're probably some chick and a puerile lefty, debating logic with you will probably prove futile and pointless but here goes.
Stricter gun laws and putting less guns out there will, by plain statistics, reduce the amount of crazies getting a hold on them.
Ignoring the fact that there are approximately 200,000,000 firearms owned by Americans out there now, how exactly is this expected to work logically? By less guns do you mean restricting the amount of firearms a law abiding citizen is able to purchase annually or own currently? Perhaps you would like to see ownership of firearms become illegal and you intend to confiscate the 200 million firearms that are out there already? Much like our resident genius Korey Coleman, your statements lack any specifics on what steps would be taken to create this brainless, liberal gun-free utopia.
The guy that did this got the guns from his mom's personal collection, if it wasn't permitted for her to have those he wouldn't have had access to them, is that coherent enough for you?
Actually it isn't. Again, are you advocating the outright ban of firearms for every American citizen? This is the position you are suggesting is it not. Therefore, no American law abiding citizen would be "permitted" to own a single firearm in hope of preventing a mass shooting from ever occurring. Okay, let's indulge in this Korey Coleman idiocy for the time being and proclaim from this day forward all guns are banned and everybody must relinquish any firearm in their possession or face a prison sentence. Let us even go as far in this farcical liberal fantasy all guns are confiscated and throw into an incinerator then recycled into electric cars. Will the mass murders suddenly disappear forevermore? News flash, the bad guys will just adopt IEDs or chemical weaponry to accomplish their aims. Remember 9/11? 3000 people were murdered without the use of a single firearm. The Oklahoma City truck bomb killed 168, shouldn't we ban truck bombs too....oh that's right it's already illegal to do that. Gee I wonder if stricter truck bomb laws would've prevented that tragedy? I
It's no surprise liberals are stupid.
January 09, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Jay C Miller said ...
Honestly looking back at all this gun violence and people blaming video games, I live in Canada and we don't have a right to bear arms. We do have every Call of Duty, Mass Effect, and movie Americans do. I can only remember one time where someone in my country went on mass shooting spree whereas there's been how many in the U.S. in the past year alone? If video games make people violent why doesn't it happen in Canada? Or better yet, why doesn't it happen in Japan or China where hundreds of millions play Starcraft yet has there ever been a mass shooting like this? You don't need more than a couple of bullets to keep yourself and your family safe, not a fully automatic assault rifle or multiple hand guns.
January 04, 2013 at 5:32 AM, Kelly said ...
@Jedifarce
It won't completely get rid of people still misusing them, but making them less easily available WILL reduce it by a lot, it's a proven thing. That's plenty of lives saved, talking like it's ineffective because it doesn't get rid of it 100% is beyond arrogant and dismissive. You're so self-righteous but can't grasp this simple thing. Stricter gun laws and putting less guns out there will, by plain statistics, reduce the amount of crazies getting a hold on them.
January 01, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Jedifarce said ...
After listening to Koreys protracted rant on firearms being the problem, as with most liberals, he didn't offer a single coherent reason how banning firearms would've prevented the massacre or prevent future incidents from reoccurring.
Only thing I got out of that idiotic discussion was that conservatives are stupid and Korey's smarter than anybody else. The guns are already out there, unless you ban every single firearm on the market and confiscate every gun in America from each law abiding citizen, guess what Korey, it's going to happen again.
January 01, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Jedifarce said ...
Leon - "the whole idea you're going to protect yourself from the government, I'm like try it, see how long that lasts." Apparently, Leon isn't up to speed on current events in Syria.
December 31, 2012 at 2:27 AM, said ...
you know Aristotle was wrong about everything. He said that objects stop moving because they become tired, and that heavier objects fall faster.
Also, we don't take drugs off the market when 1 person dies from it. We take a drug off the market when hundreds of people die from it every year, except cigarettes, alcohol, and guns. Because the U.S. is addicted to these things and cant bear to get rid of them.
December 29, 2012 at 6:41 AM, said ...
@ Alan:
In my moderacy I find myself agreeing with your sentiments and in truth that would solve many problems. However, simply requiring someone to sign an agreement to have a locked gun cabinet/take safety courses/not possess guns around at-risk individuals would be no more effective than the current 4473 form one fills out when buying a gun at licensed retailer. In order to effectively implement such requirements we would need a national gun owner registry similar to Illinois' FOID. The thing is that that clashes with the sentiments of a majority of hunters or sports shooters who agree with banning 'assault weapons'. A new AWB would pass before a national gun owner ID. And as you seem to have agreed, that would solve nothing significant.
@ theotherWillSmith
I think that it is slightly unfair to directly compare the number of alcohol-involved road deaths to firearms homicides. The former is negligence, the latter is direct intent, which aren't the same things. I compared drunk driving to assault weapons to illustrate a point about dangerous things and the cost of freedom, not that alcohol is worse than guns. (not that I don't think it is, but that's a subjective view). And your numbers are off. in 2011 the 8583 was homicides committed with handguns. Total firearms homicides overall was something like 12,000. Just making sure people quote the correct numbers.
December 29, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Juanismo said ...
Leon you have no idea what you talking about ramen going bad you trippin son!?!?
December 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM, said ...
@ Alan Hazelrig
And Adolf Hitler thought that smoking was bad. (not implying Nazi reference, just the closest one I could think of). Just because the founding fathers got some things wrong does not mean that others are too. There have been overbearing governments throughout history and uprisings and revolutions against them. The second amendment is an attempt to stop that process by equating the government with the people. And yes, that effect has been diluted by apathy in recent years but that is only reason for those of us who believe in the second amendment to fight harder to change minds and retain the right to buy as many scary rifles and 30-round magazines as one may afford.
If you wish to change the constitution then please, by all means coalesce with other like-minded citizens and campaign to do so. I think that background checks need to be strengthened, but as I said before, I believe that the founding fathers desired the average citizen to have access to the small arms outfitting the infantryman of the day. And that's a M-16 style rifle and a high-capacity pistol. Banning the former will not impact the gun violence numbers more meaningfully than statistical noise.
December 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Alex Thompson said ...
37:00- Damn good point right there.
December 27, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Alex Thompson said ...
19:00 - Wait, what?! This really happened? I somehow missed this news report. O_O
December 27, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Alex Thompson said ...
Whew, you guys were busy over the holidays posting stuff! Kudos for your determination and dedication, but good Lord there's so much stuff to catch up on!
December 27, 2012 at 5:22 AM, said ...
Yeah I actually enjoyed the show other than the gun control parts. It's just more entertaining when the discussion is about movies or video games, their personal lives/stories, even some news, but the political stuff makes me want to fast forward. Especially since I listen to the podcast to GET AWAY from tragedies and that kind of stuff.
December 27, 2012 at 5:01 AM, said ...
@Behonkiss
You are such a dumbass. You're gonna tell them to respect their audience more based on you guessing what the show was like? It was actually pretty good lol
December 27, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Behonkiss said ...
Haven't listened to this yet, but based on the comments that it was shit, I'm guessing it consists of a bunch of boring tangents and Korey telling everybody who disagrees with him to fuck off? Way to respect your audience, guys.
December 27, 2012 at 2:24 AM, said ...
@Son of Ajax
You really think the entire Republican party is like that?
"You named two idiots: Limbaugh and Huckabee. You think I can't name ten more political leaders and Republicans that mirror their stance?"
Even if you can name ten more, that's nowhere close to the majority of the party. I'm not a liberal or conservative but if everyone just wrote off half the country as in support of rich anti-gay douchebags like you're doing, we'd never get anywhere.
December 26, 2012 at 9:31 PM, DeMarco Wynne said ...
Interesting introduction, guys. First, a joke. What's the difference between the NRA and NARAL? The former's line of work results in death after birth, while later's line of work results in death before birth! Yuk, yuk...
And, Well, here is my response to the podcast...
@Korey: I am very wary of gun control legislation by the simple fact that such legislation has always been targeted to the poor and minorities. Still, I will say that there such be more stringent measures in place, kind of like having different types of drivers licenses for vehicle classes. Next time you discuss this issue, you should do a comparison with American gun control laws with other nations, particularly Sweden and Israel. They have tough gun control laws that manages to balance public safety with the right to bear arms. And, on a more philosophical bent, there is no one answer as to what the 2nd amendment means, which is why this issue will always be adjudicated in the courts.
@Leon: I don't know if "Uncle Sam" touched you in a bad place, but you really shouldn't be so bitter about being an American. Sure, there is the legacy of slavery, segregation and general racism towards blacks, but, guess what? Things got better. And you know how this was made possible? By using the US Constitution's provision on the right of a citizen to redress past sins in order to make the constitution work for everyone. In fact, that's why President Barack Obama went into constitutional law, so that there can be "equal protection under the law".
So, once again, you're quite incorrect on the importance of respecting the US Constitution, since it has done more to help achieve rights for the oppressed than not.
December 26, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Ryan.Rave said ...
December 26, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Ramond said ...
They should rename this podcast to : Bitching with Korey. Really guys you should start the podcast on a positive note instead of talking about some seriously depressing shit. Its the holidays.
December 26, 2012 at 5:28 AM, said ...
And another thing I get irritated by is seeing people on the pro-gun control side of things who have no idea what they are talking about. Check out this clip from the Wendy Williams show. Nobody knows what semi-automatic, assualt weapon or such means. One of them even says someone with just handguns would have only killed a couple of people, forgetting that the Virginia Tech shooter managed to kill 35 people with just two pistols.
December 26, 2012 at 5:23 AM, said ...
OK I love you guys, but I had to skip past alot of the gun control talk not because I necessarily disagree with you... but because I'm getting tired of hearing it and hope I don't have to week after week. I don't really have an opinion on gun control. But alot of the stuff I'm hearing from both sides is extremely weak to me and none of it is convincing me. Gun control is just too complicated of an issue and Korey, none of the points you are making seem too valid to me. The whole thing about the NRA (which you aren't the first person I've heard that opinion about) seems like speculation though as well as the white guy/malcolm x comparison is quite silly. I think you are smart Korey, and definitely not mentally ill, so I think you can come up with something better than this. I did however love the video game parts and totally agree with you on that as well as the parts on religion.
I just agree with Penn Jillette that we need to remember that this was a horrible tragedy, but also remember that THIS IS EXTREMELY RARE. I know it sounds like it is happening all the time, but it is not. It is an anomaly. Your child will NEVER EVER have this happen to them. 1,000 children die a year in swimming pool accidents. More children die in car accidents, fires, etc. We need to stop letting the media destroy our minds and remember this is a SUPER RARE event. We don't need to be scaring our children by telling them about this or telling them how to prepare. We need to let our children live with joy and without worry. As an adult, you need to be the ones thinking and mourning and crying over this.
December 26, 2012 at 3:31 AM, said ...
-I'll come out and say first off that the background check system is flawed and needs strengthening. I think that it was the exact wrong move to blame TV and the media. That aside, I vehemently oppose a ban on 'assault weapons' or high-capacity magazines for many reasons.
-The first is that such a ban would be unenforceable. Many rifle magazines are very simple in their geometry and would not be hard to handmake. Secondly, the low-capacity magazines can simply be cut and even just taped together to form a high-capacity body (I've tried, it held a full stack of 30 rounds). And now that we have laser-hardening 3D-printers, it won't be long until one can print as many high-capacity magazines as one desires. (Look at the most popular AR-15 magazine on the market, the Magpul P-Mag. Everything, the body, floorplate, follower, all injection molded plastic. The only steel in it is the spring, and the government can't ban a spring now, can it?)
-Secondly, On NPR at least two times guests have said that an assault weapons ban or a high-cap magazine ban wouldn't have prevented the Sandy Hook shooting. "If he didn't have an AR-15 he would have used handguns, if he didn't have high-capacity magazines he would have just reloaded." Indeed, it wouldn't have prevented other shootings. The Hi Point carbine and double-barrel shotgun used in the Columbine shooting were reloaded ten and twenty-seven times respectively. One of Ho Seung Cho's pistols only held ten rounds in the magazine.
-So then the objective behind an assault weapons ban would be to reduce overall gun violence, but that isn't even a valid argument. According to the FBI, in 2011 323 people died from being skilled with rifles (presumably inclusive of AR-15s and AK-47s). On the same chart, it lists 728 people having died from being punched/kicked/shoved. So statistically Korey's guns have twice the odds of killing someone as my AR-15. Some 6000+ people were murdered in the same year by handguns. So despite some people saying that military-style weapons don't belong in modern society, they aren't even the main problem. An assault weapons ban is a political agenda that looks good, nothing more. Even if you did expound the billions of dollars to confiscate all military-style semi-auto weapons and high-capacity magazines, you'd still be left with quite alot of gun deaths each year. What about those? And you'd only be saving a couple hundred lives each year at most. So, is it worth it to restrict gun rights for just those couple hundred lives?
-I would also like to add to the 'cars kill people too'. Yes, cars do have a use besides killing people. But let's take a look at drunk driving. The latest data I can find atm is 2009. 10,893 people died because someone was alcohol impaired and driving. Over ten thousand people died because some people took two perfectly legal things and broke several laws to abuse them. Despite alcohol being regulated, despite driving being very regulated. People abused legal things and people died. But are we trying to ban alcohol? No. Are we trying to make the drivers license process more stringent, or installing breathalyzers in cars? No. Because that would impair people's freedom too much. American society views those ten-thousand-plus people's lives as the cost of freedom to drive where one wants to when one wants to, and to imbibe as much alcohol as one can afford. What about those ten-thousand-plus lives? Wouldn't they be worth it?
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