Podcasts - THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: Volume 9, Issue 13: Love in the Time of Pantalones

It's that magical time of year! Well, for people in happy relationships, anyway. But screw 'em, The Leog takes our fans' most heartfelt
questions about love, and gives 'em the type of answers that only a room full of giant nerds can deliver. They may not be the answers you
want to hear, but they're the ones you need to hear. Or, you know, whatever.

*slinks away*

As if that wasn't enough, our friend Yehudi Mercado shows up to talk about his new comic, "Pantalones, TX" and even doles out some
advice on how to manage time when you've got huge comic pages deadlines looming. I'd wondered about that myself. Figured comic artists
had some sort of pocket dimension or something. Go figure.

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61 Comments for THE LEAGUE OF EXTREMELY ORDINARY GENTLEMEN: V...

February 23, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Marcus Green said ...

I'm definitely in that I'm too young to know anything phase, but I know even less than that. So much of what is said during the show is just beyond my comprehension. It feels like trying to learn another language where I'd have to be constantly immersed in it all the time before I could possibly begin to feel comfortable with any of this.
February 20, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Alex Thompson said ...

Very funny show, guys! So full of lolz!
February 19, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Dr. Detfink said ...

I am VERY late...and I'm just trying to catch up with all my podcasts but I wanted to add the most painful mistake in cinematic dating:

I was cringing in my seat...and that stuck with me in my dating exploits ever since with how many phone calls rule.

Great podcast.
February 19, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Hey it's Melvin! said ...
February 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM, Paul said ...

what ever happened to the fiasco game recording? are you gona post it up or did it not sound good?
February 18, 2013 at 4:45 AM, stalksthemoon said ...

@KGishFish, they did a show dedicated entirely to Whedon a couple of years ago. they covered Buffy extensively as well as Angel, Firefly, and Dr. Horrible.
February 18, 2013 at 3:40 AM, said ...

I'm probably in the minority here, but I would totally love it if you guys did a whole show just talking about Buffy.
February 18, 2013 at 3:03 AM, johnny michael neill said ...

Chicago Bearded Hipster - That is a bit more clear! I thought you were carrying a torch for a younger, idealized version of a chaste romance. I think most people go through one of those on again/off gain relationships, where neither of you are in love with the other at the same time. That is what Shakespeare referenced with The Fault Being With The Stars. He also retracts that blame, owning the fault by the heart of the sufferer. I meant what I said about everyone needing a painful heartbreak at some point. The wounds won't heal if you just keep picking at them off and on for five years. People will always tell you that the opposite of love is hate, but I think if you hate someone you have the same amount of passion as you do when you love them, so the pain is as great as the elation. The practical opposite of being in love is being indifferent, when you just don't care anymore you can move on, and she can move on without it bothering you. Unfortunately, it hurts to get there, a lot more than it hurts to just linger and expect something to shift - BUT, it only hurts once, and when it's over it's a good kind of hurt. Ask my man Rufus!
February 18, 2013 at 1:25 AM, Hunter Longley said ...

Okay so I'm only 73 minutes into the show, but I REALLY hope they talk about Violet and Tate from season 1 of American Horror Story, however unlikely that prospect is. I'm a totally straight, 20 year old male who almost never watches anything vaguely romantic, but I surprised myself with much I LOVED that facet of the show and missed it in season 2.
February 18, 2013 at 12:10 AM, said ...

I really loved hearing some of LEOG's "romance" stories. I've had some pretty bad experiences dating, both girls I've met online and in person. Friends always find them amusing, but some of yours put mine to shame.
February 17, 2013 at 10:42 PM, said ...

Dear LEOG,
Thank you so much for reading out and discussing my question. You have no idea how much it helps just getting an outside opinion about this. Johnny Neill, I'm sorry if I wasn't too clear, I honestly just didn't want to run on and rant and tell my whole story but basically it's this. I dated the girl I was talking about for a year, we broke up and continued to be on and off as just friends and friends with benefits. She led me on for a while and made it seem like we were going to get back together and she would tell me about how she "loves" me and all this other stuff but in the end she was fucking other guys. Her and I stop talking and then start talking again all the time. I know I'm probably sounding like a wreck or someone naive, I might be, but really, hearing you all talk has really helped me and I hold everything you said to heart.

Thank you so much and keep doing the amazing job you're all doing.
- CBH
February 17, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Dr. Detfink said ...

WOW. Thank you B. SixShade for that insight. I want to experience Comic Cons in different cities. I LOVE flavor of fans all over...but this is VITAL info should I intend to plan a trip. Thank you Again. :)
February 17, 2013 at 8:54 PM, escort said ...

@ Dr. Detfink, 4 years ago at ECCC it cost $45 to get Stan Lee's autograph. This year at Wizard they're charging $299 for they're V.I.P M&G with Stan and $499 for the Platinum package. Portland would like to have a con to call our own but not at the cost of being duped by a big conglomerate like Wizard. It cost $70 for one adult at the door at wizard. For the same price I can take my son, wife and myself to Emerald city.
February 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM, said ...

Thank you Johnny Neill, from now on I shall be known as...RUFUS!!!
February 17, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Dr. Detfink said ...

Yea, there was a similar struggle between NYCC and Big Apple Comic Con by Wizard that can fuck around with scheduling of creators who have to make appearances all over the country at the same time, these conventions want the names to draw to generate sales...2007-8 was annoying as shit working this all out.

Really excited to try out the Baltimore Comic Con...heard the Kentucky Comic Con is the one Con where Robert Kirkman has maybe 200 total asking his siggy when it's ridonkulous any place else. Curious about that as well.
February 16, 2013 at 7:09 PM, escort said ...

Thirty years removed from "Return of the Jedi," Mark Hamill still commands a $100,000 autograph guarantee at comic conventions. If he can't sell a thousand $100 autographs, promoters pay Hamill, 61, the difference.

At Seattle's Emerald City Comicon in March, attendance is expected to top 65,000, more than three times the throng that attended in 2010.

And when Wizard World Con debuts in Portland next month, the "Stan Lee Platinum VIP" package is selling for $499.

When geeks gather en masse, in other words, the economics are as scary as the Princess Leia costumes. And that helps to explain why Emerald City, and a chunk of the Portland comics' community, are chaffed by Wizard's incursion into the Northwest.

On the final weekend of February, Wizard will take over the Oregon Convention Center with a three-day show that features Henry Winkler, Morena Baccarin from "Homeland," and the tireless Lee, who continues his quest to autograph (at $55 a pop) every Jack Kirby-illustrated comic published in the 1960s.

"We'll have a full floor of artists and creators. A full programming schedule," Wizard CEO John Macaluso promised Wednesday.

If that doesn't double your pulse rate, there's this from the Wizard website: "All sword and knife dealers must provide proof of insurance prior to the show."

Given that Portland fandom has long made do with the weary, low-budget Second Genesis gatherings at Memorial Coliseum, what's not to like?

I have Seattle on the line.

"You can't put two shows of this size that are almost identical together, put them five days apart and expect both to have maximum success," said Joe Parrington, Emerald City's PR director.

"The issue isn't that Emerald City Comicon has to be the only kid on the block with a lemonade stand. Wizard decided to open its lemonade stand on the same week we're doing it and, essentially, on the same block."

Such territoriality may seem a bit over the top when Emerald City is now one of the top five comic shows in the country.

The con will fill all 415,000 square feet of the Washington State Convention Center in March. Its 2013 guest list includes Patrick Stewart, Carrie Fisher, Neal Adams, Christopher Lloyd, Garth Ennis, Adam West and Burt Ward. Its ascendency is spectacular.

"If you're asking what we're worried about," Parrington said, "it's like they say in Hollywood: You're only as good as your last movie.

"It doesn't matter what we've achieved: Are people going to empty their wallets at the Wizard show? We have to be concerned when we have so many celebrities attached to autograph guarantees."

Because Wizard has more celebrities than comic stars, Emerald City is bringing 29 celebrities and voice actors to Seattle in March. Each arrives with a hefty five-figure autograph guarantee.

Wizard has a history of poaching on other comic shows, but Macaluso insists that practice ended when he took over as CEO: "We're a new company today. Whatever comic-con wars happened in the past, I come to this with no baggage. We picked Portland only because there is no show in Portland. We only wish (Emerald City) success."

Emerald City doesn't buy that, so its founders have gone on the offensive, entering into a partnership with Rose City Comic-Con to put on a September show in Portland.

Wizard "forced our hand," Parrington said.

A significant number of local retailers and creators are staying clear of the Wizard show, out of loyalty to Emerald City and antipathy to Wizard's decision to charge $1,000 for a 10-foot by 10-foot booth and $300 for a seat on artists' alley.

The Seattle show "has been such a blessing to the creators in the Pacific Northwest, we certainly don't want to see it hurt in any way," Portland illustrator Natalie Nourigat wrote in an email.

"There's a lot of ill will with Wizard," adds Andy Johnson, the owner of Cosmic Monkey Comics on Northeast Sandy. While Johnson admires "their go-big or go-home attitude," he questions whether that approach can be sustained in the Northwest.

And if Wizard truly wants to invest here for the long term? "There's no better model," Johnson notes, "than Seattle."

--Steve Duin
February 16, 2013 at 6:54 PM, escort said ...

How awesome is that...Yehudi will be at Emerald city this year! I can have him sign Buffalo Speedway. It's the book that Randy suggested to me when I visited Rouges Gallery a few years ago. Emerald city...one of the best cons out there. DOWN WITH WIZARD CON!!!
February 16, 2013 at 6:23 PM, said ...

Great episode this week, guys. Really wish that it could have been longer!
February 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Way2Clever said ...

@Fungusmonkey

Aww that sucks but definitely post the one you can find I've never played a tabletop game myself but I love hearing them
February 16, 2013 at 5:15 PM, The Real Scar Face said ...

Great show league. Love Kayla's philosophy on love. She says she's illogical about love, but that seemed like a very healthy attitude to me.
February 16, 2013 at 3:49 PM, said ...

Leon I'm going to take your words on the Americans
February 16, 2013 at 11:43 AM, said ...

Titan AE was a decent movie, but as you all said, it has too many styles of art in it, and the story is too rushed. You don't get enough time with any of the characters for the sense of loss to really hit you. It would have worked much better as 2 or even 3 movies, and developed as a character drama. I actually have old notes from over 10 years ago about how possible places they could have expanded it, and where they could have ended the movies if it were either 2 or 3 movies.
February 16, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Grievious501 said ...

Just hearing you guys talk about other conventions made me wish you guys were coming to one of the cons in Chicago.
February 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM, MavenCree said ...

Message to Jason Momoa:

Just Do Me....
February 16, 2013 at 6:09 AM, said ...

@movieartman:

Your dad is a jerk and your making the common mistake of basing your SELF worth on the evaluations of others. If you want to evaluate your skill as--say-- a golfer, you ask a golf instructor. If you want to evaluate your worth, you ask yourself! Who knows you better than you? Maybe me ;)